Joe's Post Continued (MoonBat Outreach)
Continued fromyesterday's adventure. This one is "Outreach" in it's purest form. It's also one of the best examples of "sloppy lib-left thinking" that I've ever encountered.
[As a matter of fact, I am egging them on. They’re at their most humorous when they’re fired up.]
In order to bolster his argument Joe has included an irrelevant and inaccurate reference to having a bunch of sick and dead people on the streets in the US. Lefties do this in order to gain emotional buy-in to their readers. The idea is that if they can pull on your heart-strings on an unrelated issue they can carry that same sympathy back to their original point. They aren’t usually so transparent though.]
[Quite to the contrary Joe. Conservatives don’t like government meddling and bureaucracy. Notice how Joe again feels the need to resort to derogatory comments in the place of a legitimate argument. Are there any Conservative bloggers out there who have had the pleasure of Joe’s pointy stick? Is he lying about that to try to improve his position within the herd? I know for sure that he’s reluctant to place comments here so I’ll have to assume the same with other blogs
On health care: Joe seems completely bent out of shape with the fact that he has to pay for the healthcare of those terrible meat-eaters and yet seems to be against allowing private healthcare where said meat-eaters can pay for their own care. It would appear that Joe wants complete control exercised over our lives where we are changed to fit into his mould. Is that not fascism in it’s purest form?]
Joe doesn’t seem to understand capitalism either. Capitalism is based on buying and selling items. If those selling a commodity kill their customers with that commodity there won’t be any customers left. Capitalists have a vested interest in keeping their customers alive. This is the same argument that nails the lefties in regards to logging. The loggers have a vested interest in appropriate practices and reforestation because failure to do so would result in having the loggers put themselves out of business.]
[Our new friend Gretchen is idolizing Joe for his misdirected arguments. What does that say about Gretchen? By doing this is she showing us that lefties tend to think alike or that she can’t think for herself?]
Sounds like another outreach moment...
Hi Joe. Wow, you sure type big. It's interesting to see that you use google as your homepage. Seeing that you don't have a home of your own, why don't you surf over to my page and we'll see if I can't show you the light. That is if you're up to a little debate with a meat-eating troll. I'll even give you your own post... Richard Evans Homepage 04.27.05 - 10:45 pm #
Or are ya CHICKEN?
Richard Evans Homepage 04.27.05 - 11:05 pm #
[As a matter of fact, I am egging them on. They’re at their most humorous when they’re fired up.]
Hey Gretchen, Check this out...[They’re looking at a satellite image of the President’s ranch in Texas. I’m curious to know why NeoCon Crusher is complaining about an infringement of Civil Liberties while he’s looking at the President’s ranch. That seems odd to me.]
http://www.sploid.com/news/2005/...anch- 101320.php
NeoCon Crusher Homepage 04.28.05 - 12:00 am #
Isn't that nice Crusher. Dumbya gets all the luxeries of life while his own troops don't even get armour. Sad.[My response is below because I didn’t want to break the continuity of their posts.]
Richard, trolling and then baiting is a really sad way to get blog traffic, dude. It's transparent and
silly. Gretchen Homepage 04.28.05 - 12:43 am #
"Or are ya CHICKEN?"[I love how the lefties always resort to name calling when making an argument. What is it that makes him think that Conservatives don’t want a health care system? It’s a fact that we need health care. I’ll expand on the health care issue shortly. It seems to me that Joe is equating all illness to the consumption of meat. That’s a pretty broad brush Joe. Do you have data to back that claim up?]
Interesting how these dumbfucks always end up in the health care system {they don't even want} with their rotten arteries and heart disease begging for the medical system for a few more years
so they can see their grandkids grow-up. Well, boo-hoo-hoo is all I can say to that. Get smart or get sick. What do I care?? I'll be paying for it when your bacon and hamburger diet decides to kill you. That's the way it works in this country, the strong provide for the weak when they need it.
If some dumbfuck kills himself prematurely because he can't follow a sensible diet, I pay for it (along with all the other Canadians). That's the way we do things here. If you want to live in a place where they throw the sick on the streets to die ignored and alone, feel free to move to Florida or California. The climate is better there too.[Again with the name calling. Does that really add weight to an argument? Any Dietician I’ve ever met has encouraged sensible diets based on the food guides published by the Canadian and US departments of health. Is Joe saying that all of these people are wrong to include meat within their guidelines? Again does he have data to support that claim?
In order to bolster his argument Joe has included an irrelevant and inaccurate reference to having a bunch of sick and dead people on the streets in the US. Lefties do this in order to gain emotional buy-in to their readers. The idea is that if they can pull on your heart-strings on an unrelated issue they can carry that same sympathy back to their original point. They aren’t usually so transparent though.]
I bet this lunkhead pumps his kids full of refined sugar too. You just keep eating meat and sugar and we'll keep on paying for it. Keep loading your kids full of toxic levels of sugar and artificial growth hormones from the beef (while at the same time, complaining about the socialist healthcare system - thumbs up to conservative responsibility). Refined sugar is natural. It grows[Wow, this one’s loaded. What Joe doesn’t understand is that I’m a Health and Safety Specialist. Nor does he understand that too much of ANYTHING is toxic. Lefties use words like toxic without providing context in order to appeal to people’s basic instincts. This process, again, generates emotional buy-in to their arguments. Once thay buy-in is gained, they don’t have to work as hard to support their argument.]
on trees... or something. Artificial growth hormones are natural! D'oh!
That's the way they always talk to smokers in this country, isn't it? When it's something they like, it's all 'natural' and necessary for their survival. They're all a bunch of goddamn hypocrites.[I have no idea what Joe’s trying to say here. If someone figures it out please leave a comment.]
For the record, artificial growth hormones are not 'natural' and shouldn't be eaten by anyone.[Now this one’s interesting because it speaks directly to the hypocrisy Joe referenced above. Those on the left promote genetic manipulation of embryo’s and fetus’s and yet scream if a wheat crop is "altered" to maximize the yield which in turn goes to feed the hungry that they seem to care so much about. That sounds like hypocrisy to me Joe.]
Conservatives don't like social programs until they can't live without them. Some of those conservatives apparently have crappy little blogs which they try to market for blog traffic through trolling, baiting and flaming. They are interesting creatures. On occassion, I like to poke them with a stick and study them. Joe Chip Homepage 04.28.05 - 2:13 am #
[Quite to the contrary Joe. Conservatives don’t like government meddling and bureaucracy. Notice how Joe again feels the need to resort to derogatory comments in the place of a legitimate argument. Are there any Conservative bloggers out there who have had the pleasure of Joe’s pointy stick? Is he lying about that to try to improve his position within the herd? I know for sure that he’s reluctant to place comments here so I’ll have to assume the same with other blogs
On health care: Joe seems completely bent out of shape with the fact that he has to pay for the healthcare of those terrible meat-eaters and yet seems to be against allowing private healthcare where said meat-eaters can pay for their own care. It would appear that Joe wants complete control exercised over our lives where we are changed to fit into his mould. Is that not fascism in it’s purest form?]
[It’s not an addiction so much as a new calling. As noted within this post, I don’t need these individuals to visit my site in order to make an example of them. That’s the whole idea behind OUTREACH!]I'm a meat eating troll, and I highly reccommend The Green Lantern. I also support and admire groups like ALF, for the most part, and can't stand Ted Nugent. I like the way Joseph Cambell described the Jains in one of his talks. The Jains were extreme vegetarians. They wouldn't pick fruit, they would wait for it to drop from the trees. As a result, Campbell used to say, there are
very few Jains around today. I am the first to admit my carniverous behavior is
akin to an addiction. Richard's behavior is akin to an addiction, too, and he's not getting enough of the attention he craves. I didn't even go to his home page.SJS 04.28.05 - 3:30 am #
"I'm a meat eating troll"[It’s strange for Joe to take this position seeing that I’ve given him every opportunity for debate. As a side note, they have banned me from posting comments over at the "lantern". Could Joe please explain exactly who it is that is avoiding debate?]
You don't seem like a troll. In Canada, we have a lot of conservative types trying to define health in their own terms with no desire for dialogue.
The way meat is being mass-produced now is unfortunately allowing for all-kinds of unnatural toxins to be consumed by the public without their knowledge. This is dangerous and irresponsible but we all understand that the profit motives of capitialism don't abide by the ethics of social responsibility and so the shitbags that profit off of slaughterhouses would rather not modify their production standards.[Joe is a gift that just keeps on giving. Thanks Joe! It would be interesting to see if there are any MS/GC data showing exactly what compounds are found in meat for sale at our favorite grocery store. I’m not thinking that there is any. If anyone knows please provide some links inside. I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that I don’t think Joe knows either. He knows how to call names though.
Joe doesn’t seem to understand capitalism either. Capitalism is based on buying and selling items. If those selling a commodity kill their customers with that commodity there won’t be any customers left. Capitalists have a vested interest in keeping their customers alive. This is the same argument that nails the lefties in regards to logging. The loggers have a vested interest in appropriate practices and reforestation because failure to do so would result in having the loggers put themselves out of business.]
Crazy, leftist weirdos will once again have to start a social movement so that the self-righteous, conservative dumbfucks can have clean food to feed their children.[Yes Joe, that about sums it up. You’ve shown us how the lefties debate without facts. You’ve shown us how lefties resort to name calling and appealing to emotion in the absence of facts. You’ve shown us that you lack a serious understanding of Conservatives.]
All in all, that about sums it up. Joe Chip
Homepage 04.28.05 - 4:45 am #
SJS...you are not a troll. Joe, you are my hero
Let's let Richard have his sad little "troll for traffic"-a-thon. Just try not to get sucked up in his negativity. He's a sad case.
Gretchen Homepage 04.28.05 - 9:00 am #
[Our new friend Gretchen is idolizing Joe for his misdirected arguments. What does that say about Gretchen? By doing this is she showing us that lefties tend to think alike or that she can’t think for herself?]
Can I be a crazy leftist weirdo, at least? I kinda like that better.
SJS 04.28.05 - 9:53 am #
"Richard, trolling and then baiting is a really sad way to get blog traffic, dude. It's transparent and silly."As noted previously, the "lantern" has banned me from posting comments. I guess they didn’t like having their ideas challenged which is simply something that we’re going to have to accept from the lib-left. They hate it when their bubbles are made to expand.
Fair enough. You need to understand though why I'm really here. I'm not trolling for your traffic. I'm performing a "service" for my own traffic by taking your arguments apart and showing the lib-left for what it really is. I'm exposing your hypocrisy and subversive methods. I'm showing the world what the lib-left really stands for. You individuals are being held up as an example of a serious problem with our society. Based on the posts I see here this morning, you're going to provide me with material for quite a while.
Richard Evans Homepage 04.28.05 - 12:03
pm #
posted by Richard at 12:14
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